turns out that fake membership I got my dad for Christmas wasnt fake after all
Couldn't happen to a better bunch of people!
This is why they're just a toy party who will never make it into mainstream politics.
A major political party capable of making it to Government would never lose records on a scale like this...
LIke it or not the BNP is a legal political party
I'd be just as interested in seeing a list of all the members of various radical left wing organisations who are probably far more dangerous than a bunch of racists shouting at their TVs. But then as we know - the liberal left media establishment deliberately fails to make the obvious parallels between right and left wing extremists. Probably because most of them still sympathise with Militants and Trotsky themselves. Pathetic double standards and hypocrisy - but then who'd expect anything else.
Permit me a LOL
I find this quite amusing.
But where is the list?
Surely nobody will lose their job as, being such honest and upright citizens as befits BNP members - at least that's what they'd like us to believe - they will have declared their membership to their employers.
This has cheered me up so much and will put a smile on my face and a spring in my step for the rest of the day.
One thing that struck me was the idea that you could get a "family membership" which includes your kids!? Signing your kids up-to a political party shouldn't be allowed.
I love the fact they are all so worried about being "outed". It says something when you know your views are so repellent that you want to keep secret the fact you are in a political party. And anyone who is in the army or other organisations that prohibit party membership deserve what they get. Those rules are there for a reason, and are not specific to the BNP. You shouldn't have joined up in the first place.
Anyway, to whoever is responsible, keep up the good work.
It's not as if they are hard to spot anyway.
Now, someone leak the freemasons list, that would be much much more interesting.
Pingtime, for Hitler, and Germany.....
Ha ha ha ha ha
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
what a shame,........
Now the nazi scum may know what it feels like to be persecuted and victimized..
It would be a real shame if gangs of ethnic minorities did stuff to their families.....
If anybody grabbed a copy before it vanished
Wikileaks would be a safe place to post this sort of information - information that should be in the public domain because 'the public interest' in ensuring BNP cannot infiltrate official positions they cannot legally or ethically hold over-rides any 'right to privacy' members might claim.
Somebody give it to wikileaks.
All the stand up citizens who don't have the guts to put their name to their political affiliation complaining anonymously.
Bunch of cowards.
Paris, at least she had the guts to stand up and admit it was her.
Racist/rightwinder - the difference?
So is the author suggesting that either the BNP are not racists, or that being racist and being politically right of centre are interchangeable? Someone better tell any black/asian/jewish/chinese/anything-not-anglo-saxon voters just in case they make the tragic mistake of not voting NuLabour at the next election.
This is funny
But on a more serious note there could be some sackings coming up over this as the BNP is a banned organisation and not really tolerated in our decent law abiding surveillance society.
Next time you get a speeding ticket..........check out the policeman. You might be lucky and find, his name, address, email, mobile number and political affiliation on the BNP Register..
The comments on the Blog are well worth a read.
Until I hear of some BNP member having their home firebombed I'm inclined to disagree.
And when it's you?
Maybe we should all live transparently where everybody knows evefrything about us from our browsing habits to what we just bought in Sainsbury's. Get your neighbours to check on the state of your underwear before it is washed? Nothing to fear, nothing to hide...
Or is it just OK because the BNP are a bunch of racist berks? I detect a slippery slope here.
Comment of losing my job
It does not matter which side of the fence you stand on in regards to this, but a man or woman should never have thier job put in jeopardy over thier political leaning.
If there is one thing I will take with me to the grave from my service is that everyone should have the right to free speech, no matter how it may make you sick.
nice to see.
All I need to do is fid the list and check to see who I know who is on it.
Then they need to leak the list to the other nutty / distasteful groups as well.
left wing extremists vs. right-wingers
@boltar: the obvious parallels between left wing and right wing extremists are, er, not that obvious at all; the latter don't generally murder people (or persecute, abuse, assault them, or send anonymous hate mail, spray threatening graffiti, push dogshit through the letterboxes,.. and so on.)
Thank you El Reg!
I was having a right 'mare of a day... Been getting very close to sticking my foot through my monitor (what is it with Tuesdays?!)
But that story has just made me smile for the first time today... Thank you! :)
Hopefully the general media will pick up on it and we can have Griffiths being asked by Paxman why they bullshit about their members figures and why they have members who are in jobs that don't allow membership.
They continually say they want to be treated like a proper party - so let them answer the question!
Although they won't, they'll just blame it on the immigrants or something... Wankers.
I'm just a clueless foreigner myself, and certainly won't be crying for anyone in the BNP, but can you really lose your job just for being a member of a political party? This gives you the right to receive propaganda and vote for the leadership, but not much else, yes? When people talk about the McCarthy era in the U.S.A., and people losing their jobs just for being members of the communist party, they shake their head as they talk; is that really life today in the U.K.?
If it's about being outed, and the boss finding an excuse, then I get it, but the article makes it sound like some people have a formal requirement not to participate in this part of the political process. I understand that some jobs require you to avoid public displays, but simple membership in a party should be the right of all voters (or residents, even if they can't vote, but that's another fight -- one that probably does not relate to this particular membership list).
Well, it's not on wikileaks yet...
Soooooooo - link?
"I'd be just as interested in seeing a list of all the members of various radical left wing organisations who are probably far more dangerous than a bunch of racists shouting at their TVs."
And where are these radical left wing organisations - let me guess, you read about them in the Daily Wail? I always hear right-wingers banging on about them as some kind of "two sides of the same coin" justification for their barely concealed racism, but I never see them. Maybe the reason the media don't write about them as often is the simple fact that they are not running for election and desperately begging for publicity.
If you're really that interested, you could start with RedWatch or Stormfront, but since they're run by a bunch of shaved monkeys, most of their info consists of publically available contact details.
RE: And when it's you? By Justin Case
"Or is it just OK because the BNP are a bunch of racist berks?"
Its OK as far as I am concerned, especially if it outs BNP members operating within the Police force and other organisations who do not allow BNP Members to join.
Couldn't happen to nicer people...
How much do you want to be that the data was obtained by a school boy SQL injection cock up or by changing a record id number in the querystring.
A new office game before this gets out
"Guess the Fascist Sweep Stakes"
The names of 30 popular celebrities are put in a hat - everyone drops in a quid to pick a name. Winner takes all, in the event of a tie the pot is split.
Go go go.
re: Comment of losing my job By Jamie
If that political leaning is likely to cause you to be discriminatory to non whites then it is totally right that they are banned from operating in certain organisations such as the police.
I admit I'm from the US, and I guess things are different here, but how do employers get away with terminating people due to political affiliation? I can understand that some people might be barred from partisan activities due to their jobs, but this sounds deeper than that.
Anon, because I'm at work.
@AC "Job Requirements"
It's very different to the anti-communism movement in America, certain jobs in the UK ban membership of ANY political party, that would be the equivalent of banning membership of the Communist, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian and all other parties in the US.
Personally I'm not sure it's a good idea or not but it's not even remotely close to the witch hunts.
Ack... I hate the BNP. They give me horrible moral headaches. It's one of those "I don't agree with you, but I'll fight to the death to let you say it" things. They're scumbags, but you can't ban them from saying what they want to, otherwise you're on that famous slippery slope.
That said, it's wonderful to see these upright proud members of the BNP running scared that their details are out there. Especially the ones who aren't allowed to be BNP members because of their job...
Re: Job Requirement
We also have a policy of prohibiting any of our officers, staff and volunteers from becoming members of the BNP or similar organisations whose aims or pronouncements may contradict the duty to promote race equality."
Don't use the boffin logo unless you are fireproof.
"..obvious parallels between left wing and right wing extremists are, er, not that obvious at all; the latter don't generally murder people.."
From your following examples, it looks like you mean "former".
My kneejerk reaction
was to laugh - it couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch of people, but are they? As the mainstream political parties have become increasingly focussed on the swing-voters of middle England, the BNP have been down-playing their racist agenda and gaining support among the disaffected, white, working-class with a seductive message of removing the (perceived) preferential treatment of minorities.
The problem that needs addressing is why so many people now feel that the BNP is their best option.
"Now, someone leak the freemasons list, that would be much much more interesting."
Errr.... couldn't you just go the local lodge and, like, just ask?
Mine is the one with the Illuminati membership list falling out of the pocket.
To Mr Tom Paine...
I strongly suggest you read some world history books if you truly believe that. Just as a taster - Stalin is the biggest mass murderer of all time - he had far more people killed in his Gulags than hitler ever managed. And yet he's still the poster boy of certain radical (and probably lobotomised) lefties and no one bats an eyelid if they mention a grudging admiration for the b@stard. Like I said - double standards and hypocrisy.
You can't be fired or discriminated against (legally) in your employment in the UK because of your political beliefs. But if I found out that the guy in the next desk was a member of the KKK, I'd feel kinda funny and, if he stayed, I might think about getting a job somewhere else. The BNP are UK's proud equivalent.
I hate the BNP...
But im yet to understand why people are band from joining them. They are either a legal political party, or they are not. Ban them or stop restricting peoples right to express there political will.
You might like to think that, but considering most of them are actually racist and not just plain ordinary people who want equality in both directions, if you're "coloured" (cover all, generic term), in an accident and the person in the ambulance is a supporter of the BNP, are you going to say it doesnt matter when they treat your white friend more than you, increasing your chances of dying?
Might change your perspective if you ever found yourself in that position huh.
'Legitimate' political party or not
They support the victimisation of anyone not white and heterosexual. With that in mind, they deserve it, oppressive tossbags that they are. You have the right to think what you want - you do not have the right to oppress anyone else because of your opinions.
...I agree with Jason above. However, a large number of BNP members (and I lived in Bradford, so I *know* this) are racist filth. For the safety of society they should be made known. Like anyone who'll harm or target anyone for no readily apparent reason other than they're "different".
While the BNP is a legitimate political party, there's no real secret that it's made up, to a large extent, of racists. Membership is pretty much a sign that you will make decisions based on someone else's skin colour. Do I think this would affect your ability to do certain jobs (e.g. soldier, police officer, etc)? Yes. Do I think it should mean your immediate expulsion from such a job? No. Do I think it means people should keep a damn close eye on you? Hell, yes.
I believe the people who are not allowed to join political parties are members of the armed forces, those in the court system and those who work for the public service (someone correct me if im wrong). The reason being that people in these positions are supposed to remain politically neutral at all times (except when they vote of course). If they are in a party, and especially if they havent declared as such to their superiors, then naturally they cannot be completely trusted to remain politically neutral. It is very easy for information that is not for public or party distribution to suddenly end up in the wrong hands...
For people in the military its even more important - the idea being that you are neutral and serve which ever party is in power no matter if you think there a bunch of braindead twats or not. If too many people in the military are involved with one party then you have the makings of a very nice coup...
Additionally, in the UK, very few people are actually members of political parties, you might tip the odd donation to your party of choice occasionally if your so inclined but you have to be an absolute diehard fan to pay up and get on their membership list, unlike America where the vast majority join either the republican or democratic party. So anyone on the BNP membership list is likely to be a diehard racist nutter, and should be exposed if there in a position to abuse the neutrality of their office. Same goes to those in the tories and labour. Actually, i believe the members of all politcal parties should be exposed - lets see how may card carriers there are in places where they shouldnt be!
right / left wing?
why are the bnp classed as 'rightwing' because from what i see they're more statist control freaks than gordon brown
one thing they could never be accused of is a belief in free market economics
bnp = labour + racism
RE: Tom Paine
Nice collection of links, but as far as I can see none of them mention the BNP or even state the politics of the criminals concerned as right-wing. For all you know, Micheal Barton and Paul Taylor could have voted Labour, Liberal or Tory (or any fringe group like the Greens, UKIP, Communist Party of Britain). I'm sure it will surprise you to know racism is historically just as prevalent amongst left-wingers as the right. And ignoring the obvious comparisons with Stalin (probably killed more people than Hitler), Pol Pot and Robert Mugabe, violence is not solely a right-wing activity, There is plenty of violence by left-wingers in the UK, usually in concert with union activities. Do you think all those police turned out during the miner's strike for the fun? No, they were there because the unions were threatening violence to the non-union "scabs", co-workers who were simply following their perfectly legal right to work. Outside of the unions, we have such lovely groups as the Animal Liberation Front, whom are not specifically left-wing in group but seem to be univerally left-wing in the individual. Ignoring their fire-bombings, attacks on members of the public, and other such activities, they dug up a grannie's body in an attempt to force a farm to stop providing animals to a labs. Lovely people!
The BNP is a legal party, and whilst you and I may object to their politics they are just as protected by freedom of speech laws as the loons in the Communist Party of Britain. Simply assuming anyone to the right of your point of view is a violent biggot is just displaying your own stupidity and prejudice.
They are a political party, but whether they're legitimate or not is most definitely up for discussion. Their policies are designed to split communities and raise racial tension, which in turn gives them more support.
Something has to be done about that sort of thing, and this is why lots of people - myself included - try to stop them organising in our communities.
Look at it a different way: if, say, people-traffickers started campaining to make their business legal, would people tolerate it saying "Well... I don't like what they do, but they are a legitimate political party"? Of course they wouldn't. Or at least I'd like to hope so. And in the same way, I find the BNP nefarious so I'm not willing to tolerate them.
@ Jason LoCascio, and others
Firstly, I believe some jobs ban membership of ANY political party - such as the police, for example. Surely they should be officially apolitical, otherwise what's to stop them giving mason-like favours to those with the party card in their wallet?
Secondly, if a policeman or judge were a member of the BNP, wouldn't he be more likely to arrest or convict non-whites? So in my opinion, people's politics does sometimes affect their ability to do their jobs.
@Racist/rightwinder - the difference?
right of centre != racist
that far right of centre == racist